Bad Ally ([info]zenith) wrote,
@ 2007-02-25 12:46:00
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two blokes, and a fuckload of cutlery
"Where's the trolley boy?"
"In the freezer."
"Did you say 'stay cool'?"
"Umm, no, I didn't say anything..."
"Awww, shame."
"Ooh, ooh, but earlier on, there was this bit when I distracted him with the stuffed monkey, and before I hit him in the head with my peace lily, I said 'Playtime's over, big boy!'"
"You're off the fuckin' chain!"


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[info]spyinthehaus
2007-02-25 07:52 pm UTC (link)
Two berks, I think...

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[info]carrot_rope
2007-02-26 02:29 pm UTC (link)
I get the sense I already know, but... What did you think of the film, overall?

Cos for me, while moments like this remind me there were some bits I really liked about this film, I feel like I'm the only person who didn't think this was the BEST THING EVARRR, I keep feeling like the lesser things about it are being glossed over in a haze of blind kali-esque pegg love/fandom/squee's.

I might write more about this later. I think the Pegg/Frost combo is one of those that has a strange and perhaps unhealthy relationship with fandom, that can sometimes handicap their own work by too readily trying to please the people that already like them.

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[info]zenith
2007-02-26 02:34 pm UTC (link)
Nah, it surprised me by being more, I dunno, 'hungry' and less evident of resting-on-laurels than Shaun of the Dead - in that, I found the obnoxiousness of Frost's character kind of irritating even though I knew it was the point - the relationship between the two was just a little two laddish and beery. Whereas there's something so sweet about Hot Fuzz, the film is so open about the fact that there's this love story going on, and it's not nudge-wink or anything, but it is very open to interpretation...

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[info]carrot_rope
2007-02-26 03:07 pm UTC (link)
Man, I think I feel the complete opposite of that!

Alhough I know how much the internet loves a relationship open to interpretation. Really my issues are with other aspects of the film, because I think the Pegg/Frost rapport is basically a given that garners a lot of audience goodwill, no matter what film it is. Agreed it was sweet, gentle and nice, but then I wasn't really surprised by that.

I thought Shaun was a much more whole and concise film with better characters on the whole (not the british comedy! making a film! sideshow here, where every secondary character is just a catchphrase and little more, I thought the previous film did well to avoid that), and it surprised me at how much certain aspects of this film repeated things from that, and that it just took a bit longer to establish a laddy beery relationship. That it's open to interpretation doesn't really, I dunno, matter because of other things.

Purely because I felt like things were being put in there by a sense of expectation or because of things they like, regardless of if they really work, a route of fan pleasing that I think I find particularly irksome by way of being so readily gobbled up by many, but also symptomatic of a film that doesn't really hang together as well as it might.

I thought there was a good film in there, but it got stretched too thin and felt flat by trying to do too many things at once but never really nailing down what it is it wants to be. It seemed to me like they had so many bits they wanted to keep in that they did so at the expense of it all fitting together.

It still throws up some good stuff, but I was distracted by how it didn't feel like it's own world via distracting cameos that felt like a British comedy christmas special.

I think it might be better on second viewing, mind. But honestly, I expected a bit more. I was left wondering if they'd hit their limit - or are almost constricted by their own fans like Whedon or Kevin Smith or someone, to stay in a comfort zone of too readily pleasing that niche and thus never reaching a wider audience or pushing it to the NEXT LEVEL.

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[info]carrot_rope
2007-02-26 03:15 pm UTC (link)
Yikes. Sorry, I babbled a bit there. And you know, I didn't hate the film or anything, I think I just really hoped for a bit more from them.

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